Beth Holloway Meets Joran in Peru

This is a fascinating video sent to me by Steve Kardian. In it, we see Beth Holloway meet with Joran van der Sloot in the Peruvian prison in hopes of getting answers as to what happened to her daughter, Natalee. Peter de Vries from the Netherlands appears to have arranged this for his television show.

When Joran first comes in, you can see he is extremely nervous. He is ghost-white nervous. He is so nervous, he can’t take his eyes off of Beth Twitty. Once Joran hears what she is talking about, he calms down some.

Joran tells us it is hard for him to talk to Beth and says it is not easy. I believe him here. He struggles to get the words out. Then he relaxes more as he realizes he has the upper hand in the situation and he takes control. He compliments Beth and I believe he truly means it. He DOES know Beth has a good heart. Psychopaths can sniff that stuff out a mile away. That’s how they find their victims. And then Joran tests Beth by saying he hopes he can have time to think about what he wants to say.

When Beth doesn’t give an ultimatum, Joran wins, again. He escapes the hot seat.

At that moment, my heart sunk.

Beth should have been coached to say, “Listen Joran. You don’t have time. The prosecutors have said you can have this deal today and only today. Either you confess the truth now or its over. If you lie again, you won’t get a second chance –instead you will face harsher consequences. I can give you 5 minutes to put your thoughts together. You CAN get a deal, Joran. This is in your best interest and my best interest. You have to do this. Save both us. Too many others have been died because of this. Today is the day to end it all and get closure — for you and for me. I hope you’ll take it — this is what we are offering. The prosecutor is outside waiting. Let me know your decision. After 5 minutes, the deal is up.”

But Beth spoke as a mom in need of answers, as a truly caring and emotional individual who wants closure. She did talk from the heart and that heart didn’t soften Joran one iota! Joran wasn’t about to do it. He tells us he wants to write her. What he wants is to think about what is best for him. Joran won’t be put on the spot if he doesn’t have to be and he managed to get out of it.

At the end, Joran gets a kick out of the candy bar and about meeting Beth. He has a genuine grin on his face and he seemed to enjoy it as he talks to her when he leaves the room. He loves being deemed important to the point it is absolutely sickening. I think he will revel in meeting Beth, as sick as that is to write.

My heart goes out to Beth. She deserves answers, but Joran won’t give her anything unless he believes it is in HIS best interest, which at this point, he wasn’t convinced.

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Adam Baker Speaks Out

Adam says in a very soft tone, “There is no way I would hurt my daughter.” That’s a hot spot for me. Why does he say it so softly? Often times when people are dishonest, their voice gets very faint at key times.

When asked if he took part in Zahra’s dismemberment, he said, “No, there is no way I could do that to my baby.” If you look, he makes an expression of contempt at that point. While he is contemptuous, it doesn’t tell us the reason, which is key. Is he mad that he is being questioned, or indignant he has to even answer that? He just continues to speak in a very soft tone, which is notable.

We know from what he told us in the past few weeks that he knew Zahra was dead. And he likely knew what happened to her, or he would have been demanding answers from Elisa by going to the police, which he didn’t do. He defended Elisa and went along with her game as long as he could and still doesn’t want to reveal what he knows. But I cannot tell from this video if he did anything to harm his daughter, or just covered up the act of an insane woman. I would need to see more to make a final opinion. One hot spot is not enough to form an opinion.

Logic tells me if he covered for Elisa, he was capable of doing more, but I don’t have enough clues to go on right now.

Thanks, Catlady.

Jawbone Found on Aruba Beach: Is it Natalee?

WASHINGTON - JUNE 08: Beth Holloway participates in the launch of the Natalee Holloway Resource Center on June 8, 2010 in Washington, DC. The non profit resource center was founded by Holloway and the National Museum of Crime & Punishment and was created to assist families of missing persons. Beth Holloway's daughter Natalee is the Alabama teen who disappeared five years ago in Aruba. (Photo by Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

Aruban investigators reportedly have a jaw bone that is being investigated at this time that was found on a beach near the Phoenix Hotel, which Joran van der Sloot previously mentioned. They aren’t saying that it is human yet, but if it is (which I think they would know), they will be running DNA tests. Read more here at CNN.

Is this finally Natalee’s body?

We can hope.

Thanks, Keith!

Kaine Horman Responds

Kaine Horman news conference

Thanks, Sweeties, for the link!