Pastor Lane Lawless Video

There is one small snippet of video of Pastor Lawless talking to reporters, where he actually says a few sentences. In this video, Lawless’ wife, Connie, is the one who predominantly speaks to reporters, and Lawless sits on the passenger side of the car and mumbles half the time. I don’t know if he drops his voice, or if the microphone doesn’t pick him up, but I can’t hear him through most of what he says. If anyone does hear what he says, please feel free to type his words below in the comment section.

Read moreWhile this video still does not provide me with enough information to draw any conclusions, I do find it odd how soft-spoken Lawless is when I do hear him speak. I find it odd that he doesn’t want to get out and talk to reporters, and share his thoughts. As a pastor, he is a man who is used to speaking publicly, and with that, we can confidently conclude that he is not a shy guy, so why is his demeanor shy now–especially if he feels the finger is pointed at him and he knows he is innocent? As a pastor, Lawless is used to helping people, so I am surprised he doesn’t want to do that now. At first, I thought this might be due to anger (for being wrongly questioned) and a lack of control over the situation, but when I see Lawless speak, I do not detect any hints of anger whatsoever.

Another thing that bothers me about Lawless is that when he is asked, “Did you have anything to do with Sandra’s disappearance or her death?” he acts like he doesn’t hear or understand the question. Yet he tells us he heard it, because he parrots back what the reporter said. He said, ” Did I have…?” in a very slow, subdued voice. It takes him a few seconds to say, “no”, and he says it without any strong inflection in his voice. It’s notable for me.

Parroting back is a hot spot for me, especially when someone confirms for us that they heard the question. This is often a trait that liars do subconsciously, because they flat out don’t know how to answer the question. If you see after Lawless says that, he looks down and appears confused. Notice how quickly his wife is to respond, “No, no!”. Why isn’t Lawless, himself, that quick to respond? Why does that question cause him to pause? It concerns me.

I also get a sense that Lawless is emotionally a bit despondent at this point, which is odd as well. I could understand upset, or angry, but I am surprised by despondent. Why would he feel despondent? I want to ask him are his church members rallying behind him? If they aren’t, could that be why he is despondent?

With just this little bit to go on, I don’t think it is enough for me to formulate any opinions at this time. Each of the these clues alone might be explainable, as no one clue by itself says anything. It’s only the computation of clues that gives me the best indication. I will only say that Lawless definitely has my interest piqued, quite notably, and I know that I want to see him talk more about this. He is on my radar, for sure. So if new videos come online, please post them below.

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Update 4-11-2009 8:50 AM:
Pastor Lawless’ granddaughter arrested on suspicion of kidnapping and murder.

Looking for Footage of Pastor Lane Lawless

If anyone sees Pastor Lane Lawless of the Clover Road Baptist Church in Tracy, California, speak out about being interviewed by the police and FBI, please let me know. I’ve seen very brief snippets, but they don’t yield anything as they are too short.

Thanks.

ABC 20/20: Doug Grant Poll

Doug Grant says his wife drowned in the bathtub in the story he told to ABC’s 20/20. You can watch the show here.

Sandra Cantu and Her Mom Maria Chavez

Police discovered the body of 8-year old missing Sandra Cantu in a suitcase yesterday, apparently thrown into an irrigation ditch, only two miles away from the trailer park where she lived. Police are on a manhunt this morning trying to find the killer(s).

Many of you have requested that I review Sandra Cantu’s mother, Maria Chavez, to see if there are any indications if she is faking her sadness. Several of you have written me privately that you are suspicious.

Read moreWhen I watch Chavez, I do not see any indications or areas of concern when I watch her speak here. I believe Chavez is truly grieving, upset and sincerely worried about her daughter.

When I watch Maria, I see heavy eyelids, and short smiles that instantly fade after a happy recollection. I see her mouth tense as she feels the tears coming on, which would be very difficult to fake. She has a true and genuine expression of sadness on her face. Also, the way that she recollects elements about her daughter seems very natural to me.

My heart goes out to Maria Chavez in these difficult days.

My Thoughts on Lyle Herring

I wasn’t actually going to post the story and video of Lyle Herring because his behavior is obviously suspicious to anyone who looks at the facts, alone.

[ABC.com]”LAPD Det. Chris Gable called his cooperation “fragmented” and “less than helpful,” and added that Herring is “not someone I would expect as a grieving husband.”

Read moreThis is an immediate and huge red flag by itself. Another huge red flag is that Lyle didn’t report his wife missing. It was Leslie’s sister, Aasha Davis, who reported Leslie missing after Leslie missed work several days in a row. You would think if Lyle and Leslie got into a fight, and he awoke and she was gone, that if he didn’t hear from her for a day, he’d call people to see if she was okay, but he didn’t do that. It’s very notable.

Furthermore, Lyle told police he and Leslie had a fight, but at a news conference, he refused to answer any questions about their argument. If Lyle is being honest, he should have nothing to hide, so why won’t he talk about it? It’s another red flag.

Leo Stallworth, the reporter, also tells us that Lyle is launching his own investigation into his wife’s disappearance, but if Lyle is truly interested to find his wife, why wouldn’t he be cooperating with detectives? It makes no sense whatsoever.

The facts in this case speak volumes, but of course, it is always important to see Lyle speak.

When I first saw Lyle, I got an immediate sense that he likely has a temper. I get that from what I call paralleling. I also suspect that he is the controlling, dominant one in the relationship, and his wife, Leslie, was the more docile one of the two of them. This means that his character doesn’t bode well for the given situation. If I saw someone who was humble here, it would make me question everything, but I don’t. I see arrogance, instead, which gives me more concern.

When the detective says that Lyle’s cooperation is fragmented, did you notice Lyle is exchanging some words with a woman at that time? Look at how he is talking, ignoring the press conference and telling her what he thinks. Look at his body language and how he moving his hand as he talks. There is obviously tension between Lyle and this woman, and Lyle is clearly making his opinion known. Why did Lyle feel like he had to speak up at this moment during the press conference? Why couldn’t he control himself here? Notice how the woman at the end ignores him? She realizes Lyle is making a spectacle of himself.

Lyle’s body language is interesting when the reporter talks to him in the parking garage. Do you notice how relaxed and calm he is? I get no sense that he is upset, agitated or grieving for his wife. He acts like this day is like any other day. Most people who are looking for a lost loved one show some tension, stress or express their emotions. Lyle does none of this. It’s another oddity.

Lyle goes on to say, “Couples have…ah… discussions about many things all at a time, you know, so, um…you know, it was nothing out of the ordinary, uh…uh… but ah… I really can’t put a finger on it, you know?” I find it interesting how he changes the tone of his argument to a “discussion” here. Is he sanitizing his behavior? Trying to paint himself in a different light?

Furthermore, it appears like he might be smirking when says he can’t put a finger on it, but I can’t tell for sure because it is cut. However, does his statement, “I really can’t put a finger on it” make any sense at all? It’s suggestive that he is denying they even had an argument now, isn’t it? Why would he do that? This is suggestive of someone who is manipulative.

Lyle goes on to say,”I enjoy the warmth of my wife, I enjoy everything about her, you know, so… I just truly miss her right now.” Clearly talking about the “warmth of my wife” is an odd statement. I completely agree with you all in the comment section. I also find the words “right now” rather odd and interesting as well. Why does he feel that way “right now“?

Lyle talks about himself and not about his wife when he says, “I don’t think it was a fair overview of my character. I haven’t slept. My eyes are red. I’m just totally devastated here.” If he is devastated, like he says, I would expect to see some emotions regarding his missing wife, but they are notably and strangely absent. He is a blank slate. More than that, if he is truly devastated, shouldn’t he be describing his wife to us, asking us for our help, so he can bring her back, if she is truly missing? Shouldn’t he have a photos of her if he is launching his own investigation?

Notice that everything Lyle says contradicts his actions, behavior and emotions? When actions, behaviors or emotions don’t match the spoken word, pay attention: Pay close attention. It means things aren’t as they appear.

I fear for what happened to Leslie Herring…