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Dave Hawk Found Guilty of Murder

August 28, 2009/in Dateline NBC, murder/by Eyes for Lies

From the Fresnobee.com:

HANFORD — A Kings County Superior Court jury found Dave Hawk guilty of killing his ex-wife, who disappeared three years ago from her north Hanford home and whose body has never been found. Today was the third day of deliberation.

[…]

Statements from jury members
Jury foreman Kenny Knutson, 33, of Lemoore, said that during testimony about Debbie Hawk’s screams the night she disappeared, Hawk’s reaction “was almost remembering, yeah, that’s exactly how it happened. That’s when I first started to think he was connected to it. He either did it or had it done.” Read more here…

I original wrote about Dave Hawk on May 10, 2007 and I did not trust him at all. I am happy to see that justice was served today! If they could only find Debbie Hawk’s body now to give the family peace.

Close-up of a gavel and its sound block

Thanks, Val, for the update!

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My Thoughts: Carlos Perez-Olivo

April 29, 2009/2 Comments/in Dateline NBC, murder, Video Review/by Eyes for Lies

Carlos Perez-Olivo was featured on Dateline: Murder on a long dark stretch of road. Earlier in the week, I asked you, my readers, to share your thoughts on Carlos.

I heard about this story when it broke in the news back in 2006, but unfortunately, I never got to see Carlos speak prior to or during his trial. I can tell you that the circumstances alone were a huge red flag to me. Here is an attorney who is out of work, who has been disbarred, who was in financial trouble, and he decides to go home on a dark, desolate side road to get cheaper gas late at night. Amazingly, he gets run off the road, and the attacker kills his wife, but forgets to finish him off. You have to admit, the odds are pretty unlikely, especially since he tells us he was the target of threats, not his wife. The attacker also didn’t do anything to conceal his identity either, which is notably odd.

Read moreThat aside, when I saw Carlos Perez-Olivo speak for the first time, I saw a man whose demeanor immediately struck me as inappropriate given the circumstances he tells us that happened the night his wife was murdered. When we recollect memories, especially difficult or painful ones, we feel the emotions again, as we think back. With that, we would expect to see Carlos express fear, panic, terror, worry and show a general sense of vulnerability after being attacked, but it is oddly missing.

Carlos’ details of his account are sparse and lacking detail, too. I would classify Carlos as a negative person.

Here are some of my thoughts when I watched Carlos speak:

  1. Carlos talked to Dateline about getting old. His statement was very strange.

    Carlos: We wanted to enjoy ourselves while we were young. I think we were both deathly afraid of getting old, and ah, we saw too many people who, ah, became old, and couldn’t…they had money, but then couldn’t really enjoy themselves.

Does this statement make any sense? Notice how Carlos throws in the words “they had money” very oddly? It’s like it came out of no where. How does that even fit in with what he is saying? It’s like he wanted to talk about failing health, but thoughts of money derailed him. Didn’t prosecutors say Carlos had a 900,000 life insurance policy on his wife? Yet Carlos says money wasn’t important? This sentence above clearly hints otherwise…

  • Carlos talks about the fuel status of his cars:

    Carlos: We were going to go in her car but it didn’t have gas. So we went in mine that had a little bit of gas.

    The words “a little bit of gas” stand out to me here as very unusual. Most people don’t talk like this. Most people would note that both cars were low on gas, and before embarking on a two-hour drive for the night, they would gas up. Is Carlos trying to set the stage for what happened that night?

  • When it came to gasoline, Carlos said he was super cheap. So I wonder did his past purchases support this behavior? Was his car found on low like he said? So how low would it have been before he left his home, and drove to New York city that night? A two-hour round trip drive usually requires a little more than “a little bit of gas”, wouldn’t it? Ironically, Carlos managed to get to the hospital without running out of gas. Couldn’t he have made it home then, too, and got gas another time?
  • When Carlos talks about spending 15 cents more for a gallon of gas, he thinks it is funny. He smiles as he talks about it. This is very perplexing. A man who honestly was run off the road and his wife was murdered by a stranger, would forever regret buying cheap gas on an off-beaten path. They would feel like their decision indirectly cause their wife’s murder. They would feel incredible guilt. They would have remorse that their cheapness cost them their wife’s life. Yet strangely, Carlos doesn’t seem to have any feelings of regret nor does he feel guilty. He doesn’t seem to feel anything negative. He thinks it is funny he likes to buy cheap gas. It’s flat out eerie and inconsistent.
  • Notice how Carlos never talks of or uses the word murder with regard to himself or his wife? Is he sanitizing the situation? If you are victim, are you going to sanitize this monster’s acts? Acts which ruined your life?
  • Look at Carlos’ account of of what happened:

    Carlos Perez-Olivo: I’m driving, and all of sudden this car kind of cut in front of me. My concern at the moment was not to get into an accident for the obvious reason that i didn’t want the cops coming because I had been drinking.

    This car “kind of” cut in front of him? Has that ever happened to you, where a car kind of cut in front of you? Give me a break. It’s the classic hedging, a dead give away, because Carlos is trying to tell us something that should be very definitive yet his words are anything but definitive. His words are hedging, which I suspect are a subconscious leak to what the truth really is.

  • Carlos says the car cut in front of him, and his first fear was about getting in an accident. Then he says his initial reaction was to get out and yell at the guy. How did they come to a stop? Why doesn’t Carlos give us these details?Usually when a stranger tries to cut in front of us, they either keep on going or we go around them. Why did Carlos act differently? Why doesn’t he tell us what caused him to act differently?
  • Next thing Carlos hints at is he saw someone who looked Colombian according to Dateline. If he didn’t recognize the guy, why wouldn’t he drive away? He knew he had enemies–he tells us so himself. As a defense attorney, you would think he would be a bit wiser, wouldn’t you? He dealt with criminals all the time.Later on, in the 911 call, he calls the guy a Hispanic. Did he use both terms? I’d be curious to know. Why would he switch terminology?
  • Dateline reported, “But in an instant, a man wearing jeans and a baseball cap and who Carlos thought vaguely looked Colombian was standing by his car window pointing a gun at him.”Okay, why wouldn’t this guy conceal his face? Does this make sense to anyone? Also, where are the details in Carlos’ story (see below).

    Carlos Perez-Olivo: I froze. I should have put the car in reverse or I should have tried to hit the car, but I didn’t. And he got into the backseat. I then reacted.

  • If Carlos saw a gun, why wouldn’t he take action to prevent this guy from getting in the back seat? Many cars today have doors that automatically lock when we drive. Did Carlos’ car have that feature? This would be interesting to know, because if he did, it would have meant that he had to unlock the doors for someone to get in if he just slowed to stop.
  • When Carlos said he froze, he shrugs his shoulders. He talks without any emotion. Most people in this situation would be horrified, but clearly Carlos is not. He doesn’t seem to have any emotional memories from that night, which is a huge red flag, considering someone murdered his wife and supposedly attempted to murder him, too. If you didn’t know the subject he was talking about, you would think it was something benign. You’d never know he was talking about the last few minutes he spent with his wife. It’s a huge red flag.
  • Carlos never talks of his wife, or his wife’s reactions during all of this, which is odd. If he was run off the road, she should have woken up. If some attacker got into the car, she should have woken up, but she seems eerily missing in this story. It flat doesn’t add up.
  • Carlos also never recounts when the guy shot his wife, which he should recall. He should have been fearful of the gun since he saw it outside the car, and been very aware what was going on with the gun at all times. It was supposedly his central focus. How could he miss that this guy shot his wife? It’s ridiculous. He was in the car the whole time.I would have loved to have seen Carlos re-enact this crime for us.
  • Here is a snippet from Dateline that I think is fascinating:

    (Dateline) Carlos knew he had been shot. Peggy still looked asleep in the passenger seat upfront.The gunman fled.

    Carlos got back in the driver’s seat.

    Carlos Perez-Olivo: I turned the car on. I picked up the phone. And I started to drive away, I called 911.

    We got shot by the side of the road … I’m going on 133, I’m trying to get to get to northern Westchester.

     

    How did he know “we” were shot, if Dateline’s account of the story is correct? If she still looked asleep and he doesn’t have any memories of his wife being shot, how does he know she was shot here? It’s rather perplexing, isn’t it? It doesn’t add up at all. Dateline could have edited this out, but I tend to doubt it by the other clues I see.

    Later to 911, he says, “I can’t stop, I gotta get my wife to the hospital. I think she may be…I think she may be…” Why didn’t he say he thinks she was dead, or murdered? Why doesn’t he say someone tried to kill him? Why are all of these details missing?

  • Carlos laughs when he talks about the 911 operator asking where he was. Isn’t that creepy? What could possibly be funny about that? He wanted to give the operator the perpetrator’s car description instead. That was more important to Carlos…more important than getting his wife help, it appears. What would be most important to you when your spouse is dying beside you–getting the word out on the killers, or saving her life? Carlos priorities are notably off.
  • I find it strange how Carlos hobbles into the ER. If I were in his shoes, I wouldn’t leave my spouse. I would start screaming for help as I stood by the car. Or I’d run in a panic screaming for immediate help. Carlos appears to slowly “hobble” in and seems content getting help for himself. He even walks quite notably calm to the front desk as if he was a normal visitor. He never makes a ruckus at all. Where did all his panic in the 911 call go? Was he giving his wife more time to expire??

    Carlos Perez-Olivo: They took me into a room and I remember being upset because i thought they were working on me and not doing anything with her.

  • Carlos’ shirt is all tucked in. Dateline made a great point about this, and I concur it doesn’t fit with his scenario.

Carlos thought he was going to get away with murder, and thought he could beat the system, if you want my opinion, but now that he is in jail, and he is paying the price. Look at him here (thanks CD for sending me this today), after spending time in jail. Suddenly, Carlos is feeling remorse, for no one other than himself!! He should have felt this pain for his wife when he met with Dateline, but it was strangely and eerily missing.

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My Thoughts: Tim Iannone

April 17, 2009/1 Comment/in Dateline NBC/by Eyes for Lies

Dateline featured “Cape Fear: N.C. town paralyzed after murders” last week, and profiled a cold case squad who attempted to bring new insight to the murders of both Allison Foy and Angela Rothen. Both women were found next to each other in a wooded area often frequented by prostitutes, murdered by a knife, potentially a year apart, and both were likely sexually assaulted.

One suspect in the case came forward and agreed to speak to Dateline: Tim Iannone and his wife, Susan. Tim wasn’t on the radar until his wife, Susan, wrote the private investigator on the case, and said he should look at her husband. She said she just wanted to clear his name from the rumor mill.

My review is long, so bear with me. I think my end thoughts may surprise you!

Read moreHere are my thoughts on Tim and Susan Iannone:

  1. When Tim is talking to news reporters outside his house, he is actually smiling when he says, “They’ve got the wrong guy. That’s all I have to say.” Why is he smiling? This is a red flag.
  2. Susan wants us to believe she wrote the investigator to help clear her husband’s name, and I’m flat out not buying it. I suspect she got mad at some point, and perhaps afraid that there might be some truth to the story, she lashed out in an emotional state. Susan is one who has a hard time with her emotions, if you want my opinion.

    Josh Mankiewicz: How and why did you reach out to Marc Benson, the private eye?

    Susan Iannone: Truthfully? And this will be the first time that my husband’s ever heard this. And if I have tears, you’ll understand that. I feel responsible for all this. And he doesn’t even know it. Rumors were going around that my husband had something to do with Allison. Well, that made me mad.

    Does anyone really believe this is the first time she is telling her husband this? I’m certainly not. Does she feel responsible for putting him in the spotlight? Absolutely.

    Watch when Susan says, “first time my husband’s ever heard this”, notice her shake her head in a yes movement? It’s as if she is answering her own question. It’s fascinating. I believe this is an involuntary response. Often deceptive people do this.

  3. When Mankiewicz asked Tim to tell us what happened with Sonya, the prostitute, he says with an obvious smile that he can’t talk about it due to potential civil litigation. Notice how Susan steps right up and tries to tell us Sonya stole from Tim? Why didn’t Tim say that? Tim responds, again:

    Tim Iannone: She stole from me, more or less. But there was no assault. No beating. The worst thing I ever did was pull her hair to keep her from running. But it was not an attack, a rape. It was nothing like that.

    The words “more or less” are interesting. Either she stole, or she didn’t. This is a big red flag. Also, if Tim grabbed her by her hair to keep her from running, wouldn’t he have been able to get his stolen property back? He is obviously a big guy capable of overpowering a woman. When Tim continues to talk, he shows positive emotions again. He seems to get very positive feelings when talking about all of this. I can’t help but wonder why. If you are wrongly accused, you don’t feel like smiling. This is a big red flag.

  4. When Mankiewicz asks Susan if she believes he didn’t attack Williams, she really struggles when she says, “Yes”. Watch her scrunch up her mouth. It shows she is struggling with this answer. It’s notable and obvious. Why does she struggle with this?
  5. Tim tells Mankiewicz that Williams was the only prostitute he picked up, but Dateline found another woman who admitted to being with him. They interviewed her, and I believed her. Later on, Dateline reported that the police said that Tim told them he had picked up nine prostitutes. There are too many people who are telling a different story than Tim. This shows us Tim is inconsistent and not trustworthy.
  6. The interview goes on:

    Josh Mankiewicz: Is Sonia Williams the only prostitute you’ve ever picked up?

    Tim Iannone: Yes. (Notice how soft-spoken he is when he says this?)

    Josh Mankiewicz: So other prostitutes who say that you’ve assaulted them, they’re also lying?

    Tim Iannone: Yes.

    Josh Mankiewicz: And they’d be doing that why?

    Tim Iannone: I have no idea.

    When Tim says “I have no idea”, there is a positive emotion on his face again. Why?

  7. Susan Iannone then says, “Sometimes you have to consider the source, be it right, be it wrong.”

    Isn’t this the most ironic statement? She sits next to her husband, who visited prostitutes, admits to having oral sex with Williams, and admittedly has lied to her, but she tells us we shouldn’t trust a prostitute? Who has the history of lying here? Her husband or the prostitute?? Unbelievable.

    Josh Mankiewicz: Meaning that a prostitute’s word is worth less than a guy who works for a living?

    Susan Iannone: In my opinion, sure.

  8. When Tim says he doesn’t have an alibi for that night, it’s amazing how Susan just steps in again. We later hear her change her story, so we know she wasn’t honest here.

    Josh Mankiewicz: What’s your alibi for the night that Allison disappeared?

    Tim Iannone: I don’t have one. I don’t know where I was that night. I mean, I was home, I would guess.

    Susan Iannone: I do! We were home by seven o’clock. And that’s where we stayed. That’s where he was.

    Josh Mankiewicz: You’re his alibi?

    Susan Iannone: Yes. I’da knocked him out if he wasn’t at home with me!

    When Susan speaks up like this, you can see this cocky grin on her face. It’s out of place, but more than that, her answer is funny. It’s out of character for her and her situation with Tim. She tells us she would have knocked him out. Wait a minute. This is a woman who is still with him after he has lied to her, been with a prostitute, and has multiple other prostitutes accusing him of abuse, and she wants us to believe she puts her foot down in this marriage? It’s a complete contradiction to her behavior pattern already defined. It’s nonsense by this fact alone. I knew instantly it was B.S., because her story flat out doesn’t match her known behaviors.

  9. When Mankiewicz talks about all circumstances that make Tim a reasonable suspect, Tim smirks when he says, “I would have looked at me.” Tim seems to really enjoy this.
  10. When Mankiewicz ask if Tim is a murderer, I am troubled by his soft tone when he says, “No”. He uses the same tone in the other responses during the interview. It’s very notable to me. When people believe something, especially something this serious, there is usually conviction in there voice, which is clearly missing here. Tim is also a man who likely has a temper, and when he feels violated, he is not one to hold it back.

    Josh Mankiewicz: Did you kill Allison Foy?

    Tim Iannone: No.

    Josh Mankiewicz: Did you kill Angela Rothen?

    Tim Iannone: No.

  11. Mankiewicz continues….

    Josh Mankiewicz: What do you think happened to those women?

    Tim Iannone: I couldn’t even speculate. I don’t know what kind of mind could contemplate doing something like that. I have no idea.

    Notice how when Tim speaks here, again, he is smirking and then flat out smiling. It’s very interesting and highly notable. Why does he feel such positive emotions about this?? Does he feel like he is getting away with something?

  12. An unnamed prostitute speaks out about being with Tim, and tells us an interesting story. She says that Tim gave her his cell phone number and told her to call if she needed a ride anywhere, that he would give her a ride, she says, in exchange for sexual favors.

    Woman: He picked me up on numerous occasions, at least 10 to 15 times. He gave me his cell phone number to have me call him if I needed a ride, if I didn’t have money instead of exchanging money me paying for the ride, we exchanged sexual favors.

    My husband actually made an amazing statement when we watched this. He said what if on the way home from the bar, Allison realized in her drunken state that she didn’t have money left, that she had spent it all? What if Tim was her cab driver? How would Tim think? According to this unknown prostitute above, Tim would think “sexual favors”. If it was Tim, could he have demanded sexual favors from Allison that night, and she refused? Could that be how this whole thing happened?

  13. Police check out Tim’s alibi, Susan, and find out that he didn’t clock out from driving the cab until after midnight. Susan’s response is not surprising. Susan’s facial features remind me of people who suffer from alcoholism. I wonder if she is known to drink, and drink in excess?

    Susan Iannone: I mean, the only reason I would’ve said 7 o’clock was because it was a Sunday, and it may not have been a Sunday. We don’t…I don’t remember.

    Dateline: So you think maybe you were mistaken?

    Susan Iannone: I mean, sure, I could be. That was 2006!

    This fits with Susan’s personality a whole lot better than her first answer, doesn’t it?

  14. In November 2008, police cleared Iannone. The cold case squad talked about how important the DNA evidence is, and I couldn’t disagree. They also talked about how Tim shook his head yes when he said no. These are very strong indicators that Tim is not being honest with us. Yet the police also said that Tim volunteered to come in and speak to them, which is highly unusual for a guilty person to do.

Tim is certainly an interesting character, and I must say I am torn about what to think of him. I do believe he is a cold, callous man without much regard for other people. He has no problem lying to the woman he has been married to for over 20 years. Worse, several prostitutes are alleging that he abused them. I think that makes Tim a dangerous man, and someone we should be concerned with. And most importantly, he seems to perfectly fit the profile of someone who could do this crime.

However, some “bad boys”, like Tim, often gloat in the darkness, and even if they didn’t commit a crime, and it is rumored they did, they enjoy the fact that they are intimidating people, scaring people, and have an edge over them. People like this love the power play that a bad reputation gives them, even if it is false, and they enjoy playing the part.

Could that be what Tim is doing here? He realized long ago, no one could read him, and so the question is, is he delighting in fooling people for another reason other than deception?

At this time, I am unable to determine the cause of Tim’s delight. It could be true duper’s delight, or enjoyment of being thought of as a “killer” when he, in fact, is not.

I went back and looked at the nod that the cold case squad point out in the interview when Tim denied he is a murderer, and killing the two women (Part 5, time marker 1:50). I didn’t notice it as anything unusual when I first saw it, and I wondered why. And when I watched it a second time after it was pointed out, I wasn’t sure this was deceptive body language. I wanted to know why. Then I realized I should compare his “yes” responses, where we know he is being true, to this. Were they the same?

If you rewind the clip back a few minutes, to where Tim answers Mankiewicz’s questions about submitting his DNA, and passing a polygraph, which we know for sure are true, his nod to these questions is very different than the nod when he says “no” in reply to the questions about killing the women.

When we know Tim is honest, and he says yes, his head goes from the up position to the down position, and there is a slight shaking movement. Yet when he responded that he did not kill the woman, his head went from down to the up position. I would think, just intuitively, that when Tim says yes and believes it, his body language would be the same as when he lies and his head involunarily moves in the yes motion. The fact that the two nods are different, makes me question if they mean the same thing. I wondered if I picked up on this innately, and that is why I didn’t register these nods the first time?

When Tim was asked what his reaction was to being cleared, he looks totally deflated. He says, “I think that’s good, but I expected it to be followed by the annoucement arresting someone for this.” Why did this deflate him? Did it mean his “bad boy” game was over? Is that why he went on Dateline, again, to potentially renew the gig? If this was a game of duper’s delight, wouldn’t Tim still be just as happy as he always was, pulling the wool over everyone’s eyes?

I wonder, did police use his cell phone pings from that night on the job to see if he was in the area? No one ever mentioned that. Wouldn’t his cell phone also have logged in all calls received and made? If there were no calls from the pub, and all calls received at the hours around when Allison disappeared did not link back to anyone known to have been at the pub that night, wouldn’t that help support that Tim wasn’t likely the cab driver?

Intuitively, I am leaning slightly on this case in one direction, but when my logic kicks in, it fights with my intuition and tells me, wait, be cautious, don’t decide [so officially, I am undecided at this time]. I’d really like to see the “confidant” and “husband” speak. That might give me my answers!

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Dateline: Tim Iannone

April 14, 2009/in Dateline NBC, murder/by Eyes for Lies

What are your thoughts about Tim Iannone featured on Dateline NBC this past Friday?

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Eric McLean

September 22, 2008/in Dateline NBC, homicide/by Eyes for Lies

Dateline NBC profiled a case they titled A Deadly Triangle Saturday. Did you see it?

It is the case about married couple Eric and Erin McLean. Erin, a teacher, started dating a former student of hers, Sean Powell, and in the end Eric ended up killing Sean.

Eric always maintained it was an accident, but Erin resorted to calling Eric a psycho. She told police he threatened to kill her or himself, but she didn’t think he would really do it.

It was a true mystery indeed.

When I watched Eric talk, I believed him. I trusted what he said to be true. His grief was genuine, intense and real. His story was logical.

Eric was tried for first degree murder but the jury only convicted him with reckless homicide. His sentence, which will be given in November, could be as light as time-served (6 weeks) plus probation. I believe justice was served in this case.

At this time, Erin McLean is on the run with their children.

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