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  1. Nodnol
    Nodnol says:

    It was a fascinating show. My wild guess is that Kaitlyn and William were having an affair. He could have manipulated Kaitlyn into doing it or she could have alone, so they could be together without Mary in the way. Very far fetched and scandalous but, if true, it explains a lot.

  2. clownfish
    clownfish says:

    I’m still watching. I don’t know the relationship of the woman with dark hair to the mother. But she does an awful lot of what looks almost like smiling. Maybe I’m dreaming.

    • clownfish
      clownfish says:

      I just got to the part where Kaitlyn panics about the upcoming trial. Shoot. She looks so helpless in that moment.
      I’m so confused. Still watching this thing in pieces.

  3. Gigi Ebert
    Gigi Ebert says:

    When Kaitlyn first appears onscreen – her microexpressions give it away. Also, no anger when accused – no anger at all that she’s been wrongfully accused. Right before trial when asked words to the effect of what’s most upsetting to her Kaitlyn doesn’t reply that she’s innocent & has been framed etc. or that Adam did it as she wrote in that letter – an innocent person would have responded that she was innocent & wrongfully accused & have been angry! You’ve taught us well Eyes!

  4. Jennifer Kindschi
    Jennifer Kindschi says:

    This was a good episode! There are a lot of unanswered questions evidentially. But the fact that Kaitlyn is a horrible actress sealed the deal for me. Because I’ve been an EyesForLies fan for so long, I noticed the same unnaturally soft, sweet voice that Kaitlyn used in all situations. The measured and stilted say she spoke about things that would come bursting out in torrents if a person were falsely accused. But the kick in the gut moment was when Kaitlyn said “It was surreal,” in regards to Mary Yoder’s tragic illness and death. If you freeze-framed Kaitlyn’s face in that moment, you would have thought she was describing opening a Christmas present. It reminded me of the look on Gary Coleman’s widow’s face as she described unplugging his life support.

    • noname
      noname says:

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  5. clownfish
    clownfish says:

    on other topic, the daughters…I was amazed how on their crying was. it was all the time. I mean I guess it makes sense but at the same time it really surprised me to what extent like the rythmn of it was constant. No interruptions or crying exhaustion etc.

      • Jennifer Kindschi
        Jennifer Kindschi says:

        I thought the daughter who was the doctor shed tears, that she wiped away, and she also had puckered, oblique eyebrows. The other sister didn’t have the puckered eyebrows so much. But I think her grief was very real, so I’m wondering if she had Botox….

      • clownfish
        clownfish says:

        yeah they seemed for real to me, but i sometimes wondered if they were amping it up, if that even makes sense. but it seemed real. they looked almost like ghosts from emotional strain.

  6. Eyes for Lies
    Eyes for Lies says:

    In watching the Dateline episode, one person continually revealed clues that identified her as the perpetrator, and it was Kaitlyn. She had so many inconsistencies, she left no doubt she orchestrated this. I don’t believe anyone else did this with her either. I feel for Dr. Mary Yoder’s sister who think Kaitlyn is innocent. They are mistaken, sadly. The jury got this case right.

    • clownfish
      clownfish says:

      wow. thank you for sharing.
      gives me the creeps. what a crazy action to take. do you buy the motive of “love scorned”??
      it’s just creepy that the family kind of treated her like one of their own while she was planning this.

      • Eyes for Lies
        Eyes for Lies says:

        It’s pure speculation. She showed no emotion at all, which makes me wonder if she had a desire to kill and acted out on it (pure psychopathic). I don’t know if women do that though. The second, more likely suspicion was that she wanted Adam, and she figured if he was really hurting emotionally, he would be vulnerable and need someone and that could possibly be a way to win him back — he the hero rescuer (extreme, evil manipulation to meet her needs). I see her as Jodi Arias-ish, just more “closeted” in her reveals.

          • clownfish
            clownfish says:

            oh and really starting to drift off topic slightly, but interesting how you can be so evil but look so beautiful. you would think there would be some correlation between looking nice and being nice…..but guess not. not to say that she looks soulful or anything, but she’s got some much more interesting face than Jodi. or she’s got me fooled with more apparent depth. ahhh. gives me the creeps. i am so creeped out. okay, i see lots of student every semester. i really see lots of people. it just seems statistically, one of them might have been somebody like this. i always think about that and it’s really creepy.

        • wttdl
          wttdl says:

          I agree that she wanted to “win him back”, even though it’s at odds with a great percentage of their photos together, where she is seen leaning away from him. I thought that strange.

  7. wttdl
    wttdl says:

    I thought Kaitlyn’s 1. shaking her head “yes” and answering “no” when asked if she were guilty, 2. her reaction to the guilty verdict–and her “comforting” her family as she walked out of the court room (I saw the same behavior of a husband who killed his wife, was convicted, and tried to comfort his adult children as he walked out of the courtroom, instead of expressing exasperation and incoherent outrage) –along with 3. her statement “it’s hard to know that I’m innocent” were the biggest pointers to her own guilt, to me.

  8. Brent
    Brent says:

    The three sisters completely put me off the idea of using emotions to make decisions. On the one hand they accuse the husband of committing murder and with the other hand they consider Kaitlyn to be innocent. Both judgements defy the facts and evidence. This is basically the opposite of justice.

  9. Richie Hunt
    Richie Hunt says:

    I felt the defense shot itself in the foot in the first trial as they tried to blame the husband (Bill), yet admitted to Katie writing a letter stating that Adam confessed. That was completely contradictory. You start to notice that in the second trial that the main theme is that they start blaming Adam instead of Bill because they had to know they had a major hole in that story.

    They also asked Katie if she ever poisoned Mary Yoder and she says ‘no’, but her head nods slightly upward in a ‘yes’ motion. And the interrogation where Katie states that poison is a woman’s weapon was pretty damning.

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